--- title: "Fedora Talk Powers NFR's Success" id: "828" type: "post" slug: "fedora-talk-powers-nfrs-success" published_at: "2010-02-13T03:27:30+00:00" modified_at: "2014-05-08T04:07:50+00:00" url: "https://johnpoelstra.com/fedora-talk-powers-nfrs-success/" markdown_url: "https://johnpoelstra.com/fedora-talk-powers-nfrs-success.md" excerpt: "We had what I’m calling a min-Fedora Activity Day today for No Frozen Rawhide (NFR). As announced earlier this week, a few of us met on Fedora Talk and Gobby (two of my favorite Fedora collaboration tools!) to make sure......" taxonomy_category: - "Software & Technology" taxonomy_post_tag: - "Fedora" - "fedora 13" - "no frozen rawhide" - "rawhide" --- [Skip to the content](#site-content) [John Poelstra](https://johnpoelstra.com) ### Bringing order to chaos and clarity to confusion - [One Conversation](https://johnpoelstra.com/) - [Podcast](https://johnpoelstra.com/category/podcast/) - [Coaching for Directors](https://johnpoelstra.com/coach/) - [About](https://johnpoelstra.com/about/) Toggle search field - [One Conversation](https://johnpoelstra.com/) - [Podcast](https://johnpoelstra.com/category/podcast/) - [Coaching for Directors](https://johnpoelstra.com/coach/) - [About](https://johnpoelstra.com/about/) # [Fedora Talk Powers NFR's Success](https://johnpoelstra.com/fedora-talk-powers-nfrs-success/) We had what I’m calling a *min-Fedora Activity Day* today for [No Frozen Rawhide](http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_Frozen_Rawhide_Proposal) (NFR). As [announced earlier this week](http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-February/130648.html) , a few of us met on Fedora Talk and [Gobby](http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/GobbyHowTo) (two of my favorite Fedora collaboration tools!) to make sure we had a clear [announcement plan for No Frozen Rawhide](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_frozen_rawhide_announce_plan#Tree.2FRepo_Overview) . Although not part of the original plan, we found great success writing [use cases](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_cases) to explain each of the interaction points different roles would have to the changes in the release composition process. Along the way we encountered holes in the existing processes and identified ambiguous terminology. The best part of the meeting was clearly [explaining each of the release trees](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_frozen_rawhide_announce_plan#Tree.2FRepo_Overview) . Next week I intend to create a stand-alone diagram for it. I’m a firm believer in choosing the right tools for the job. I’m also convinced that the full power of this meeting was our ability to talk in real time using Fedora Talk. All five us where in different geographical locations on opposite sides of the United States. As it was, it took three solid hours to generate the substantial amount of information that we did. I’m not even sure a full day of IRC could have generated as much success and solid information. Thanks to [Jesse Keating](http://jkeating.livejournal.com/) , [Paul Frields](http://paul.frields.org/) , [Luke Macken,](http://lewk.org/blog) and [James Laska](http://jlaska.livejournal.com/) for giving up a big chunk of their day. These are my favorite kind of Fedora events–where a group of folks collaboratively solve problems and brings greater clarity to our release processes. We’re hoping that the switch over to No Frozen Rawhide will be a non-event where developers and testers can benefit from the new release process and easily find answers to the questions they have. See how we are doing by reviewing the [page we have so far](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_frozen_rawhide_announce_plan) and [leave feedback](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:No_frozen_rawhide_announce_plan) if you have more ideas. #### John Poelstra John Poelstra coaches directors in finance and software. Trained through the Co-Active Training Institute, he has coached for more than 10 years, with over 520 clients and 3,150 sessions, including people at well-known Fortune 100 companies. In over 30 years of professional experience, he spent 25 in technology and finance: software testing, project management and team leadership at Red Hat and Dell/EMC, and finance as a bank auditor at Wells Fargo and a CPA at Grant Thornton. He hosts The John Poelstra Show podcast and is based in Portland, Oregon. [Author archive](https://johnpoelstra.com/author/john-poelstra/) [Author website](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-john-poelstra-show/id1130635146) February 12, 2010 [Software & Technology](https://johnpoelstra.com/category/software/) [Fedora](https://johnpoelstra.com/tag/fedora/) , [fedora 13](https://johnpoelstra.com/tag/fedora-13/) , [no frozen rawhide](https://johnpoelstra.com/tag/no-frozen-rawhide/) , [rawhide](https://johnpoelstra.com/tag/rawhide/) [Previous post](https://johnpoelstra.com/importing-mailing-list-archives-to-thunderbird/) [Next post](https://johnpoelstra.com/you-get-what-you-track/) ## 1 Comment ## [Add yours](#respond) 1. MAx[February 13, 2010 at 8:41 am](https://johnpoelstra.com/fedora-talk-powers-nfrs-success/#comment-198) [Reply](#comment-198) Great stuff, John. Kudos to all of you for realizing that something like NFR requires an insane amount of public communication, and for taking the first huge steps in making that happen. [Reply](#comment-198) ### Leave a Reply [Cancel reply](/fedora-talk-powers-nfrs-success/#respond) ### John Poelstra [https://johnpoelstra.com/?attachment_id=3756](https://johnpoelstra.com/?attachment_id=3756) ### Work With Me I coach directors in finance and software who want to prioritize, delegate, and lead with clarity. Start with One Conversation, a complimentary 60-minute coaching conversation. 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